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My Boss Demanded I Show Up Early for Free so I Told Him His Time Isn’t More Valuable Than Mine

by Michael Lee
November 8, 2025
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In a world where every minute counts, a simple frustration at work becomes a battleground for fairness and respect. Faced with outdated computers that steal precious time each morning, an employee finds himself at odds with a manager demanding early arrivals without understanding the true cost of lost minutes.

The tension boils over when a call for accountability clashes with the reality of uncompensated overtime. Standing firm, the employee challenges the unfair expectation, seeking not just efficiency but dignity—a reminder that time is not just money, but a measure of respect for those who give it.

AITA for telling my boss his “time theft” concerns are not my problem?

The computers at my job are fairly c**ppy and require...

then a few more minutes before they're all loaded up...

It's around 5 minutes max.

So this morning he calls a meeting and announces that...

much this so-called "time theft" is costing him and etc....

but the ten minutes has to come off the end...

I also pointed out that when he opens the building...

Then I said that my time is as valuable to...

So he was all p**sy all day and everyone else...

They're work computers and turning them on is part of...

As renowned organizational psychologist Dr. Adam Grant explains, “Employees are most engaged when they feel their work is meaningful and when they are treated fairly. Unfair expectations erode trust and motivation.”

The core issue here is the definition and compensation of ‘preparatory time.’ In employment law and standard professional practice, time spent performing tasks necessary to begin the primary job function—such as logging in, booting up equipment, or reading necessary briefings—is generally considered compensable working time. The manager’s demand for ten minutes of unpaid arrival time shifts the burden of infrastructural shortcomings (slow computers) onto the employee’s personal time, which is often seen as unfair labor practice if the employee is non-exempt (hourly). The OP’s direct confrontation, while emotionally charged, correctly identified the issue: if the employer requires the work to start at 9:00 AM, all necessary steps to enable that work must be completed by 9:00 AM on the employer’s time.

The OP’s approach, while effective in making a point, may have damaged the immediate working relationship due to the confrontational tone. A more constructive approach would be to formally document the necessary boot-up time and present the manager with clear options: either the start time shifts to 8:50 AM with corresponding pay adjustments, or the manager arranges for the computers to be powered on before 9:00 AM. Asserting the value of one’s time is necessary, but framing the discussion around policy compliance and logistical solutions, rather than personal sacrifice, yields better long-term results.

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DefetiveCuckachu NTA You are absolutely 100% correct. And you are...

You did your colleagues a favour whether they realize it...

laurpr2 NTA, and his policy is likely illegal depending on...

Edit: This *may* be legal if it's considered "de minimis"...

I'm not an employment lawyer-but I know enough to be...

H335 NTA You're exactly right on point here.

If he's ***requiring*** you to be onsite and in the...

that is a change in working conditions and a change...

Requiring that time without just compensation is mostly likely a...

and if in fact he retaliates against you for refusing...

Also, why in this day and age - with powersaving...

blue_morpho_and_kano NTA Waiting for your computer to turn on is...

" BUT requiring your employees to be at work for...

" Sorry that your co-workers don't know/care about their right...

ItsATerribleLife NTA IF he doesnt want employees sitting around waiting...

he can either 1)Turn them on himself since hes there...

vacuum tubes.

Anyone thats p**sy with you doesnt realize you were fighting...

CoyotePatronus and are idiots.: NTA. If you're doing work duties,

including booting up your computer, he's required to pay you...

If he wants you to be there by 8: 50...

exactly as you said.

I started with the company I'm with now in an...

pull that on us too. That we have to have...

I told them much the same as you (our set...

That this was fine, but they'd be paying us the...

thebrew221 His proposal is, ironically, time theft of his employees.:...

In the US, wage theft totals more than all other...

The Original Poster (OP) is in a clear conflict with their manager over the expectation of unpaid time spent preparing for work, specifically booting up slow computers. The OP firmly believes this preparatory time is work and should be compensated or adjusted within contracted hours, positioning their personal time as valuable and non-donatable.

Is the manager justified in demanding ten minutes of unpaid time before the official start to account for essential machine setup, or is the OP correct that this preparation time is intrinsically part of the job duties that must occur during paid working hours?

Michael Lee

Michael is a tech enthusiast sharing insights on software development and gadgets.

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